Reddit's answer is the Focal Bathys. Buy only if you prioritize audiophile-grade wireless sound and can live with a moderate failure rate. The WH-1000XM5 is a Stay Away — don’t buy it — get the Sony WH-1000XM4 instead. Today's gap is $550: $200 for the WH-1000XM5 against $750 for the Bathys.


Built from 3,367 owner opinions across both products · 436 long-term reports · how we decide
59% would buy againof 468 owners
First 6 months 49% → long-term 60%+11of 27 long-term owners
38% would buy againof 2,899 owners
First 6 months 44% → long-term 60%+16of 409 long-term owners
The WH-1000XM5's record runs 2,899 owners against 468 for the Bathys — weigh the thinner side accordingly.
The headphones
~1 in 7 long-term reports describe a hardware failure, spread across headphones, headband, ear pads, and other components, typically appearing within the first 13 months. Warranty resolution leans resolved — 4 of 5 tracked cases were made right. At 11% serious failure, the Bathys is more reliable than most wireless headphones we track, where the category baseline sits at 24%.
Typically reported months 0–12 · 27 long-term owners
The hinge
~1 in 3 long-term reports mention a failure, overwhelmingly the hinge, typically appearing between 6 and 23 months of ownership. Of 409 long-term owner reports, 121 describe issues that went unresolved — most cases land outside warranty. This is a higher failure rate than the 24% baseline for wireless headphones we track.
Typically reported months 6–22 · 409 long-term owners
These are the share of long-term owner reports that mention a failure, not the share of units that fail — owners with working units mostly don’t post.
Gap today: $550 — WH-1000XM5 is the cheaper buy.
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Reddit's answer is the Focal Bathys. Buy only if you prioritize audiophile-grade wireless sound and can live with a moderate failure rate. The WH-1000XM5 is a Stay Away — don’t buy it — get the Sony WH-1000XM4 instead.
The Bathys, by the numbers: 11% of its long-term reports mention a serious failure against 32% for the WH-1000XM5. What separates them is what fails — headphones on the Bathys, hinge on the WH-1000XM5. Warranty outcomes differ more: 27% of WH-1000XM5 claims were resolved against 80% for the Bathys.
At $750 against $200 today, the Bathys costs 275% more and carries the stronger verdict (Risky Buy against Stay Away).
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